notjustjay
Sep 13, 09:05 AM
My experience getting my wisdom teeth out was much the same as everyone has described. The weirdest part has got to be how you don't feel the passage of time at all from the moment you are sitting on the chair and lose consciousness, and the next moment when you're lying down in the recovery room.
Normally when you sleep you are still somehow aware of how much time you have been asleep... you can wake up at 3:00am and realize you haven't slept very long, or you can wake up at noon and realize you've way overslept. Not so when they have you under.
It actually made me really appreciate the power (and danger) of date rape drugs... if this is what happens, you really wouldn't be aware of anything.
Normally when you sleep you are still somehow aware of how much time you have been asleep... you can wake up at 3:00am and realize you haven't slept very long, or you can wake up at noon and realize you've way overslept. Not so when they have you under.
It actually made me really appreciate the power (and danger) of date rape drugs... if this is what happens, you really wouldn't be aware of anything.
Origin
Sep 19, 05:05 PM
i think we found our problem, this is stupid
to install windows i had to unplug my 2 raid drives, i jsut inserted the cp disk withot installing bootcamp (can't install on raid) and after 10 secs the win xp install started
after that i replugged the raid drives and i can now switch boot disks as with bootcamp... strange huh?
but now this update... i mean, the ycan't expect a speeduser to just throw away his raid and reinstall to a single disk.
and if this is not possible( raid update) the yshould clearly start stating this in their installation instructions and notes, not the small print or some hard to find support site to hide the issue
Okay, finally I CONFIRM that the software raid used by Mac OS X is NOT compatible with the EFI upgrades :( ... too bad.
Why ? Because i just finished to install a fresh copy of Mac OS X on my 400 Gig "DATA" drive made the upgrade with this distribution ... and it worked like a charm !
So ...
to install windows i had to unplug my 2 raid drives, i jsut inserted the cp disk withot installing bootcamp (can't install on raid) and after 10 secs the win xp install started
after that i replugged the raid drives and i can now switch boot disks as with bootcamp... strange huh?
but now this update... i mean, the ycan't expect a speeduser to just throw away his raid and reinstall to a single disk.
and if this is not possible( raid update) the yshould clearly start stating this in their installation instructions and notes, not the small print or some hard to find support site to hide the issue
Okay, finally I CONFIRM that the software raid used by Mac OS X is NOT compatible with the EFI upgrades :( ... too bad.
Why ? Because i just finished to install a fresh copy of Mac OS X on my 400 Gig "DATA" drive made the upgrade with this distribution ... and it worked like a charm !
So ...
danielbriggs
Nov 21, 04:40 PM
This is nothing new...
I used those devices in last year for my GCSE courwork (15-16 yrs old). I used them in a drinks cooler / heat thingy.
I won't ramble on about my product, but: The devices are called "Thermo electric coolers. i.e. TEC's
And they offer 3 functions.
1. The cool something.
2. They heat something.
3. They produce electricity.
This heat / cooling effect is called the Peltier effect (some French guy) and some people call these things peltiers etc.
They work, buy passing a relativly large current 3-20 amps, depending on wattage. to draw heat from one side to another basically. one side is -10 degrees c. The other is +80 degrees c. However, if you don't power them and instead create a temperature difference, i.e. stick ontop of a hot computer chip. You wil have set up a temperature gradient. So it will generate electricity. Typically you get around 4ma per 1 degree C. So nothing huge, unless they have refined them. So in this case, the bigger the delta T, the more power. I guess it could power a fan then! Seem's easily possilbe, but I wouldn't expect battery life to be much more than 30 mins at most extra. As 1 fan doesn't draw THAT much power!
Still a good idea though!
If anyone else has any questions, on how they work, images, tech drawing, or my product, i'm happy to answer them all!
BTW: Forgot to add, the generating electricity idea, from one of these, is called the "Seebeck Effect"
Dan :-)
I used those devices in last year for my GCSE courwork (15-16 yrs old). I used them in a drinks cooler / heat thingy.
I won't ramble on about my product, but: The devices are called "Thermo electric coolers. i.e. TEC's
And they offer 3 functions.
1. The cool something.
2. They heat something.
3. They produce electricity.
This heat / cooling effect is called the Peltier effect (some French guy) and some people call these things peltiers etc.
They work, buy passing a relativly large current 3-20 amps, depending on wattage. to draw heat from one side to another basically. one side is -10 degrees c. The other is +80 degrees c. However, if you don't power them and instead create a temperature difference, i.e. stick ontop of a hot computer chip. You wil have set up a temperature gradient. So it will generate electricity. Typically you get around 4ma per 1 degree C. So nothing huge, unless they have refined them. So in this case, the bigger the delta T, the more power. I guess it could power a fan then! Seem's easily possilbe, but I wouldn't expect battery life to be much more than 30 mins at most extra. As 1 fan doesn't draw THAT much power!
Still a good idea though!
If anyone else has any questions, on how they work, images, tech drawing, or my product, i'm happy to answer them all!
BTW: Forgot to add, the generating electricity idea, from one of these, is called the "Seebeck Effect"
Dan :-)
firestarter
May 3, 01:36 PM
We're losing as long as we are spending ourselves into oblivion to fight this threat.
I agree, but that's self inflicted and doesn't have to happen.
I agree, but that's self inflicted and doesn't have to happen.
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jeffreyropp
Oct 6, 11:56 AM
I don't find 3.5" too big.
That's what she said.
That's what she said.
Small White Car
Apr 5, 09:00 AM
Well, this is confusing.
Last year Macrumors posters told me in no uncertain terms that CR is always wrong.
So how am I supposed to take this news?
Last year Macrumors posters told me in no uncertain terms that CR is always wrong.
So how am I supposed to take this news?
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KershMan
Mar 23, 05:28 PM
You can't assume this will be used for SIPR. What about all the unclassified computers and devices? Our base has been fiddling around with some wifi lately. I don't know if we'll actually get it (doubt it) but it's a possibility.
And the Army in particular has been working on real, secure, Wi-Fi for years. Their intent is to have very hardened, approved, encryption to deliver secure data over a Wi-Fi type network to get data into mobile devices.
And the Army in particular has been working on real, secure, Wi-Fi for years. Their intent is to have very hardened, approved, encryption to deliver secure data over a Wi-Fi type network to get data into mobile devices.
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freeny
Nov 12, 08:32 PM
"Lighten up," it is so... American :p
What a cliche:rolleyes:
Is that the best you could do?
BTW, My Japanese manager thinks they are hilarious too...
What a cliche:rolleyes:
Is that the best you could do?
BTW, My Japanese manager thinks they are hilarious too...
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kaneda
Sep 14, 11:19 AM
We all know MAC can't compete with Hardware, but we have some of the best programs on the market. That is how Steve going to use it for his ads campaign.
I read article at macworld.com the other, Apple will never make OS for PC. Check out this article: http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0209/11.haddad.php
I am not complaining with the speed of the new Powermac, but I wouldn't mind to be faster. Faster is always better.
With ipod release for PC. Apple will make tons of money. And maybe use that money and invest in developing new Hardware.
Anybody has a stat. sell of Gateway Profile 4 and Apple imac? I want to see who is winning...
I read article at macworld.com the other, Apple will never make OS for PC. Check out this article: http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0209/11.haddad.php
I am not complaining with the speed of the new Powermac, but I wouldn't mind to be faster. Faster is always better.
With ipod release for PC. Apple will make tons of money. And maybe use that money and invest in developing new Hardware.
Anybody has a stat. sell of Gateway Profile 4 and Apple imac? I want to see who is winning...
Vip
Apr 12, 12:41 PM
Hi All,
The Office 2011 update is out!
I couldn't download it from Mactopia directly, but it worked just fine
through MacUpdate:
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cute love wallpaper. cute love
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The Office 2011 update is out!
I couldn't download it from Mactopia directly, but it worked just fine
through MacUpdate:
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scirica
Mar 11, 07:55 PM
Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/532.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.5 Mobile/8B117 Safari/6531.22.7)
They ran out fast at Brst Buy Flower Mound. I wanted 32g wifi and all they had was 16g white. I left empty-handed.
They ran out fast at Brst Buy Flower Mound. I wanted 32g wifi and all they had was 16g white. I left empty-handed.
anonymous6237
Mar 11, 09:04 AM
We are 12th and 13th at Willow Bend. We are currently at the end of the line. There is a roped off area and they are saying LIMIT TWO PER PERSON.
Thanks for the Willow Bend update. I'm planning on heading over around 1:30 and hope to not be too far back in line.
Thanks for the Willow Bend update. I'm planning on heading over around 1:30 and hope to not be too far back in line.
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SevenInchScrew
Jun 17, 06:59 PM
What do you mean?
I mean your attempted joke about a newer version coming out by Christmas was a poor effort, and that further attempts could be better.
I mean your attempted joke about a newer version coming out by Christmas was a poor effort, and that further attempts could be better.
steve2112
Apr 23, 12:12 PM
Having run Linux for the past two years, I find this bit hilarious.
Yeah, no kidding. I have all three flavors sitting at my desk at home. I have a Win 7 gaming rig, Mac Mini, and an old P4 Linux machine. Personally, I have never found Windows difficult to use, especially compared to Linux. So, do I have split personalities or something?
Anyway, I am the total opposite of most of these. I do have a college degree, but I am nearly a carnivore, can't stand wine (give me a good craft beer or whiskey), prefer Dr. Pepper, and I have no idea what San Pellegrino Limonata is. If I rode a bike, it would be something insanely fast that would get me killed quickly, like a Ducati or something.
Yeah, no kidding. I have all three flavors sitting at my desk at home. I have a Win 7 gaming rig, Mac Mini, and an old P4 Linux machine. Personally, I have never found Windows difficult to use, especially compared to Linux. So, do I have split personalities or something?
Anyway, I am the total opposite of most of these. I do have a college degree, but I am nearly a carnivore, can't stand wine (give me a good craft beer or whiskey), prefer Dr. Pepper, and I have no idea what San Pellegrino Limonata is. If I rode a bike, it would be something insanely fast that would get me killed quickly, like a Ducati or something.
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redeye be
May 30, 05:00 PM
Redeye, I don't know what happend, but I have a missing picture in the folding widget. I did drop a place this week.
Could you compare this to your content of the FoldingTracker.wdgt package.
-rw-r--r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 5056 May 18 20:04 Default.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 1092 May 18 20:04 Default_back.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 2451 May 18 21:49 EOC_Folding.gif
-rw-r--r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 6180 May 21 14:20 Icon.png
-rw-rw-r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 764 May 28 01:49 Info.plist
-rw-r--r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 156 May 21 22:09 change_down.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 2814 May 21 22:12 change_no.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 149 May 21 22:09 change_up.png
-rwxrwxr-x 1 jeroen jeroen 1304 Jun 17 2004 done.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 2746 May 28 01:30 foldingtracker.css
-rw-rw-r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 2829 May 28 01:47 foldingtracker.html
-rw-r--r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 11306 May 28 01:47 foldingtracker.js
-rw-r--r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 6236 May 23 21:58 largefront.png
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-rw-rw-r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 463 May 28 01:50 version.plist
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Hd Firefox Wallpaper. Cute
cute computer wallpaper.
Could you compare this to your content of the FoldingTracker.wdgt package.
-rw-r--r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 5056 May 18 20:04 Default.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 1092 May 18 20:04 Default_back.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 2451 May 18 21:49 EOC_Folding.gif
-rw-r--r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 6180 May 21 14:20 Icon.png
-rw-rw-r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 764 May 28 01:49 Info.plist
-rw-r--r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 156 May 21 22:09 change_down.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 2814 May 21 22:12 change_no.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 149 May 21 22:09 change_up.png
-rwxrwxr-x 1 jeroen jeroen 1304 Jun 17 2004 done.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 2746 May 28 01:30 foldingtracker.css
-rw-rw-r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 2829 May 28 01:47 foldingtracker.html
-rw-r--r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 11306 May 28 01:47 foldingtracker.js
-rw-r--r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 6236 May 23 21:58 largefront.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 198 May 23 22:04 resizebutton.png
-rw-rw-r-- 1 jeroen jeroen 463 May 28 01:50 version.plist
rdowns
Apr 8, 08:48 AM
very big time after they saw the elelection results. They knew they were losing the House and Tea Partiers were coming in so they should of quickly one threw.
Much easier said then done. Remember, it takes 60 votes to get anything done in the Senate and the Republicans obstructed virtually ever bill brought up.
Much easier said then done. Remember, it takes 60 votes to get anything done in the Senate and the Republicans obstructed virtually ever bill brought up.
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stubeeef
May 25, 02:31 PM
I think you deserve the stubeeef, semi weekly, "Darn Good Job Build'n Sumthin" award. You earned it! :D
rickey939
Oct 26, 08:05 PM
- still can't use an email address other than mac.com email address as "reply to"
Ummm, yes you can.
Ummm, yes you can.
SeaFox
Oct 27, 04:44 PM
- No spam management
- No full data set for the Address Book (still can't note bdays, etc.)
- No iCal integration with a fully editable calendar
Yup, I mirror those complaints. There is spam filtering, but I personally have no way to change the settings, I'd like to make them a little more restrictive. One thing I notice about the Address Book is the way it ranks phone numbers for display. This was a problem in the old Webmail as well.
The new Address Book search in the mailbox window is cool, but when it displays the phone number, it only shows one of the phone numbers for the contact, and it doesn't let you choose which one. It ranks the numbers as 1. Mobile, 2. Home, and 3. Work. So if I want the work number to display for a contact, the only option is to not list a mobile or home number for them! Even worse, it doesn't tell you which one it's using, either. All them would need to do is add a faint (m), (h), or (w) notation like they do other places in Webmail.
I'd also like to see screen real estate used a little better. The bar with "Feedback" "Prefrences" and the language is a waste, moving those to buttons on the main toolbar would be better, and I don't need the top with the Apple site tabs, or the links to the other .Mac areas, either. I tried to remove them with Firefox but I got a blank area at the bottom of the window the same size then, so I didn't gain any usuable space, also this removed the only Logout button on the page.
I do really like the new webmail overall in the end. Much less clicking needed to get things done. But it does need some polishing.
And the lack of a web-editable calendar function is just dumb. I sometimes think of just paying the $20 a year fee for Yahoo Mail Plus to get rid of the ads and transfer everything over ot that. Their calandar is a real must have for me. And I would get more reliable email service, but I want IMAP access.
Edit: The bar separating the message list from the preview pane can be moved up and down, but the position is not remembered and resets after you log out or go to the address book.
There's a "Get Mail" button. I hope I don't have to push that to check for new messages anymore. I would expect an webmail system using "the latest technologies" to have an AJAX interface and retrieve new messages periodically on it's own without having to reload the entire page.
- No full data set for the Address Book (still can't note bdays, etc.)
- No iCal integration with a fully editable calendar
Yup, I mirror those complaints. There is spam filtering, but I personally have no way to change the settings, I'd like to make them a little more restrictive. One thing I notice about the Address Book is the way it ranks phone numbers for display. This was a problem in the old Webmail as well.
The new Address Book search in the mailbox window is cool, but when it displays the phone number, it only shows one of the phone numbers for the contact, and it doesn't let you choose which one. It ranks the numbers as 1. Mobile, 2. Home, and 3. Work. So if I want the work number to display for a contact, the only option is to not list a mobile or home number for them! Even worse, it doesn't tell you which one it's using, either. All them would need to do is add a faint (m), (h), or (w) notation like they do other places in Webmail.
I'd also like to see screen real estate used a little better. The bar with "Feedback" "Prefrences" and the language is a waste, moving those to buttons on the main toolbar would be better, and I don't need the top with the Apple site tabs, or the links to the other .Mac areas, either. I tried to remove them with Firefox but I got a blank area at the bottom of the window the same size then, so I didn't gain any usuable space, also this removed the only Logout button on the page.
I do really like the new webmail overall in the end. Much less clicking needed to get things done. But it does need some polishing.
And the lack of a web-editable calendar function is just dumb. I sometimes think of just paying the $20 a year fee for Yahoo Mail Plus to get rid of the ads and transfer everything over ot that. Their calandar is a real must have for me. And I would get more reliable email service, but I want IMAP access.
Edit: The bar separating the message list from the preview pane can be moved up and down, but the position is not remembered and resets after you log out or go to the address book.
There's a "Get Mail" button. I hope I don't have to push that to check for new messages anymore. I would expect an webmail system using "the latest technologies" to have an AJAX interface and retrieve new messages periodically on it's own without having to reload the entire page.
MacBandit
Sep 13, 10:37 AM
Oh, and another thing cpu manufacturors demonstrate maxed out cpu fairly frequently this is done to show the potential of a cpu not that they're going in to production. I would be that they scoured production for months before they found one cpu that could achieve what they did with some kind of special cooling. They probably had the thing in a freezer with some kind of special gas instead of air to cool it.
Moto and IBM do demonstrations like this also.
Moto and IBM do demonstrations like this also.
Twe Foju
Apr 23, 02:19 AM
I think to dictate what people should or shouldn't do with their machines is silly. Search the forums and the internet. The Air has proven to be plenty capable as a gaming machine for it's size and has many satisfied users talking about it.
A computer is certainly a tool, but it can also be a gaming machine, a home theater pc, an entertainment hub, etc.; whatever a user may find use for it for.
Obviously, certain machines are better and worse at certain functions than others, but don't forget that this generation of MBA, there are people that actually did go out and buy the Air because one of the reasons is that it did happen to be a decent performer in games, while remaining ultra portable. In this case, I think the Air strikes an excellent balance between function and form.
I use my Air for live music sets and this is exactly a scenario where such a BL KB would be grand. I read similar opinions from other musicians on this forum in another thread. Creative artists like live musicians can definitely find appropriate use for a backlit kb, but even average everyday users who don't share the same skill level as you would also benefit from it. If anything, adding convenience is always a welcome.
If you don't want or need the backlit kb, then you could always turn it off. It's there for people who might need it. Win-win situation.
You sir, just made my morning :D
And i Think this thread should be rename into:
Sandy Bridge and Thunderbolt + HD3000 vs 320M
:cool:
A computer is certainly a tool, but it can also be a gaming machine, a home theater pc, an entertainment hub, etc.; whatever a user may find use for it for.
Obviously, certain machines are better and worse at certain functions than others, but don't forget that this generation of MBA, there are people that actually did go out and buy the Air because one of the reasons is that it did happen to be a decent performer in games, while remaining ultra portable. In this case, I think the Air strikes an excellent balance between function and form.
I use my Air for live music sets and this is exactly a scenario where such a BL KB would be grand. I read similar opinions from other musicians on this forum in another thread. Creative artists like live musicians can definitely find appropriate use for a backlit kb, but even average everyday users who don't share the same skill level as you would also benefit from it. If anything, adding convenience is always a welcome.
If you don't want or need the backlit kb, then you could always turn it off. It's there for people who might need it. Win-win situation.
You sir, just made my morning :D
And i Think this thread should be rename into:
Sandy Bridge and Thunderbolt + HD3000 vs 320M
:cool:
mjstew33
Sep 22, 07:51 PM
I think the only way they can make them better than they are now is adding HUGE hard drives. Like 300GB standard and like 2.3GHz proccesors.
But I don't think that'll ever happen ;)
But I don't think that'll ever happen ;)
rdowns
Feb 24, 01:37 PM
What about regulations to protect the consumer from those that find loop holes to make big bucks....
Parents need to do their part, but government needs to try to protect from the greed that that brought us to the mess we are in today....
Are we really comparing looking into in-app purchases with the crimes committed by Wall Street? Wow.
This is a 100% parental issue. As for Apple, the least they could do (and it might be there) is to post a video teaching parents to use parental controls.
Parents need to do their part, but government needs to try to protect from the greed that that brought us to the mess we are in today....
Are we really comparing looking into in-app purchases with the crimes committed by Wall Street? Wow.
This is a 100% parental issue. As for Apple, the least they could do (and it might be there) is to post a video teaching parents to use parental controls.
j_maddison
Mar 21, 01:24 PM
Uh, why? How is it shameful? This isn't an item that is even remotely usable for studying with alone - what other electronics company does student discount on the scale that Apple does? The iPad is a glorified iPod touch, it is not a learning device (yet), not will it replace a computer in the home unless all you use is Facebook, even then you can't upload photos without the use of another computer.
Sarcasm, right? Any student, it doesn't even fulfill the needs of half of all students. It can't print, for one! Nor can you put pictures or anything onto it without the use of another computer, so how exactly does it replace a computer?
Like the way you just picked out a solitary post, ignored my other post, just to make your point ;0)
I said it's a companion device in a later post. I was a student, and I agree I wouldn't write an essay on an iPad. My 80wpm isn't blistering, but it would be slowed right down by the iPad and I would want to get my thoughts on the screen as quickly as possible
What it is good for is note taking in lectures, using the diary on the go, being able to surf the net, reference quickly, carry core texts around with you (core texts not replacing half a dozen books that need to be open at hte same time for quick reference), great for e mail on the go, great for facebook in those boring lectures where you're struggling to keep your self awake, and lots of other handy things.
Where it falls down is the lack of multi tasking, porn, illegal downloading, and lots of other things students find handy :D
I used a palm during my uni years, the think was fricking amazing for what I wanted it to do at the time. You don't always need to carry around one device that does it all, sometimes simplicity and convenience is what it's all about
Funnily enough I agree with your points, just don't try and bend what someone else has said to try and fit the point you want to make, you'll lose marks for that in your exams/ essays ;)
It seems like the majority of the comments are about Price, personal purchase and Higher ed use cases. All of these comments miss the point of what the announcement is about, institutional purchases. This is about school's buying large quantities, and really, since I have a hard time imagining that a University would be buying 10 packs of iPods . Yes, I know that schools like ACU have innovative 1:1 ipod /phone programs where they provide devices to the student, that is not really what this bundle is about). The target audience of a program like this is clearly K12. It is similar to bundles that apple currently has of 32 iPod touches and a Bretford cart or use in a K12 classroom.
This is all interesting, but the biggest challenge and obstacle that Apple has in K12 is that the iPod ecosystem is a consumer model. It is also not a Higher ed model, where students own their own device and are conditioned to the requiremet of buying their content. I work as a technologist for a 200+ school district and we have been trying to figure out for the better part of a year how to make this consumer product work in k12 setting.
We've been running pilots in several schools / classes since late spring of 09 and the biggest problem we have is getting a straight answer on how to liscence paid applications. We've asked several Apple representatives "if I buy a class set of 32 ipods, and I want to use a paid app, how many copies does the school need to buy, how many itunes accounts do we need, how many computers do we need to sync all 32 devices and how can we purchase using ta purchase order (no school is going to relish tying a credit card to a personal account, or cutting a PO for 30 $25 itunes gift cards!)
The answer we have gotten back every time has been not 32, not 1, not 1 for every 5 devices, but the question does not apply, the iPod and iTunes are consumer products and the enduser agreement is for consumers not institutions, and when asked for advice we've been told that Apple does not provide interpretations of their agreements and how we choose to interpret it is a mater that we should take up with our in-house council.
The good will and glow of Apple in education will continue to drive adoption of the ipod and ipad. I know millions of stimulus dollars went to ipods in school districts around the country, unfortunately, until Apple accepts the fact that school districts are not individuals and they have to "think different" and work with us when we ask for advice on how to successfully use their products in K12, much of the money and the potential will go o waste.
I hold my hand up, I did miss the point. I confused this with being one and the same as a student/ teacher discount. I didn't engage my brain there for a second.
I think Apple should give good discounts to educational establishments and students, hell it's far cheaper for them than marketing campaigns. Hook a student on an Apple and you've got a customer for life!
Sarcasm, right? Any student, it doesn't even fulfill the needs of half of all students. It can't print, for one! Nor can you put pictures or anything onto it without the use of another computer, so how exactly does it replace a computer?
Like the way you just picked out a solitary post, ignored my other post, just to make your point ;0)
I said it's a companion device in a later post. I was a student, and I agree I wouldn't write an essay on an iPad. My 80wpm isn't blistering, but it would be slowed right down by the iPad and I would want to get my thoughts on the screen as quickly as possible
What it is good for is note taking in lectures, using the diary on the go, being able to surf the net, reference quickly, carry core texts around with you (core texts not replacing half a dozen books that need to be open at hte same time for quick reference), great for e mail on the go, great for facebook in those boring lectures where you're struggling to keep your self awake, and lots of other handy things.
Where it falls down is the lack of multi tasking, porn, illegal downloading, and lots of other things students find handy :D
I used a palm during my uni years, the think was fricking amazing for what I wanted it to do at the time. You don't always need to carry around one device that does it all, sometimes simplicity and convenience is what it's all about
Funnily enough I agree with your points, just don't try and bend what someone else has said to try and fit the point you want to make, you'll lose marks for that in your exams/ essays ;)
It seems like the majority of the comments are about Price, personal purchase and Higher ed use cases. All of these comments miss the point of what the announcement is about, institutional purchases. This is about school's buying large quantities, and really, since I have a hard time imagining that a University would be buying 10 packs of iPods . Yes, I know that schools like ACU have innovative 1:1 ipod /phone programs where they provide devices to the student, that is not really what this bundle is about). The target audience of a program like this is clearly K12. It is similar to bundles that apple currently has of 32 iPod touches and a Bretford cart or use in a K12 classroom.
This is all interesting, but the biggest challenge and obstacle that Apple has in K12 is that the iPod ecosystem is a consumer model. It is also not a Higher ed model, where students own their own device and are conditioned to the requiremet of buying their content. I work as a technologist for a 200+ school district and we have been trying to figure out for the better part of a year how to make this consumer product work in k12 setting.
We've been running pilots in several schools / classes since late spring of 09 and the biggest problem we have is getting a straight answer on how to liscence paid applications. We've asked several Apple representatives "if I buy a class set of 32 ipods, and I want to use a paid app, how many copies does the school need to buy, how many itunes accounts do we need, how many computers do we need to sync all 32 devices and how can we purchase using ta purchase order (no school is going to relish tying a credit card to a personal account, or cutting a PO for 30 $25 itunes gift cards!)
The answer we have gotten back every time has been not 32, not 1, not 1 for every 5 devices, but the question does not apply, the iPod and iTunes are consumer products and the enduser agreement is for consumers not institutions, and when asked for advice we've been told that Apple does not provide interpretations of their agreements and how we choose to interpret it is a mater that we should take up with our in-house council.
The good will and glow of Apple in education will continue to drive adoption of the ipod and ipad. I know millions of stimulus dollars went to ipods in school districts around the country, unfortunately, until Apple accepts the fact that school districts are not individuals and they have to "think different" and work with us when we ask for advice on how to successfully use their products in K12, much of the money and the potential will go o waste.
I hold my hand up, I did miss the point. I confused this with being one and the same as a student/ teacher discount. I didn't engage my brain there for a second.
I think Apple should give good discounts to educational establishments and students, hell it's far cheaper for them than marketing campaigns. Hook a student on an Apple and you've got a customer for life!
